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Going Deeper Podcast "Information"

Posted by: James Brent

{"ops":[{"insert":"The discipline of history since the early 19th century has focused on \"the cult of the fact\" and learning how to find facts, ad infinitum, and to ascertain their accuracy (which is the single criterion that sets them apart as facts). The stated purpose is to develop a true narrative of the past. A historical method whose foundations date to the Renaissance exists in order to carry out this purpose. We're very good at finding information and evaluating it from a critical standpoint, as far as that goes. \n\nBut if we evaluate our information from the point of view of an audience that wants simply to be entertained, and from a subjective viewpoint of what will sell the most books, then what depth and breadth mean as standards is very different from something that might actually engender new ideas that lead to enlightenment. On the other hand, historical scholarship that \"teaches\" can fall into the trap of validating assumptions based on some ideological framework by ignoring or downplaying information that seems contradictory. This encourages further research and the publication of alternative interpretations, true, but these tend to be ignored except by the scholars themselves. \n\nA century ago the profession made the effort to overcome some of the pitfalls by trying to turn history into a \"science,\" where some approach to an empirical enterprise could be used to validate facts, and as a result to develop theories and \"laws\" of history just as the natural sciences were supposed to do for their domains. While quantification and statistics are of course valid and valuable for the \"social sciences,\" I think that critical thinking in this discipline must rely mostly on the type of conceptualization that the podcast referred to. \n\n\n"}]}


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Posted by: Gerald Nosich

{"ops":[{"insert":"Hi James,\nIn your comments you always seem to go deeper into the question and to use new examples. It's a pleasure reading them.\n\tYou mention history and the reliance on facts. I remember reading history when it seemed that historians took primary sources far too seriously. Procopius wrote his diaries about Justinian and Belisarius, and the histories of Byzantium written in the 50s and 60s, quoted him as if he could be relied on. But he hated them with a passion. Theodora too. \n\tI remember the way it hit me when I realized that primary sources can be as one-sided (and straightforwardly dishonest) as anyone else. Along with the kinds of issues you raise, it shows that history relies every bit as much on interpretation as on pure facts. \n\t(Even \"the pure facts\" we have about anything that happened before, say, 1700, are almost entirely extracted from what the people who wrote the primary sources say. How sure are we about even the factuality of what happened on the Ides of March, or during the reign of Charlemagne, or even something as modern as the Gunpowder Plot. [But I find I am fulminating.])\n"}]}



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